Challenge results — Friday 11 September 2026
Final jockey and box challenge points from every meeting that day: 17 challenges across 15 venues.
Thoroughbred · NZTaupo8 of 8 races
Done
Joe Doyle takes the challenge on 9 points — 1 win, 3 seconds.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Joe DoyleJ Doyle | 6 | 1 · 3 · 0 | 9 |
| 2 | Michael McNabM McNab | 5 | 1 · 2 · 0 | 7 |
| 3 | Joe NishizukaJ Nishizuka | 3 | 2 · 0 · 0 | 6 |
| 4 | Samantha CollettS Collett | 6 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
| 4 | Masa HashizumeM Hashizume | 5 | 0 · 1 · 2 | 4 |
| 4 | Jasmine FawcettJ Fawcett | 4 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
| 7 | Craig GryllsC Grylls | 4 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 7 | Abinith SimonA Simon◇ | 1 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 9 | George RookeG Rooke | 6 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 9 | Tegan NewmanT Newman◇ | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 11 | Kyle Wilson-TaylorK Wilson-Taylor | 5 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 11 | Erin LeightonE Leighton | 4 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 11 | Kelly MyersK Myers | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 11 | Courtney BarnesC Barnes◇ | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 15 | Matthew CameronM Cameron | 4 | — | — |
ThoroughbredGeelong9 of 9 races
Done
Ben Melham takes the challenge on 6 points — 2 wins.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ben MelhamB Melham | 4 | 2 · 0 · 0 | 6 |
| 2 | Jordan ChildsJ Childs◇ | 2 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 3 | Jamie MottJ Mott | 4 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
| 4 | Jye McNeilJ McNeil◇ | 5 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 4 | Daniel StackhouseD Stackhouse | 4 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 4 | John AllenJ Allen◇ | 3 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 4 | Michael DeeM Dee | 3 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 4 | Patrick MoloneyP Moloney◇ | 2 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 4 | Not NotifiedN Notified◇ | 1 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 10 | Harry CoffeyH Coffey | 5 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Ben AllenB Allen | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Declan BatesD Bates◇ | 4 | 0 · 0 · 2 | 2 |
| 10 | Lachlan NeindorfL Neindorf | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Damien ThorntonD Thornton◇ | 3 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Billy EganB Egan◇ | 2 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Joe BowditchJ Bowditch◇ | 2 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Luke CurrieL Currie◇ | 2 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 18 | Teo NugentT Nugent◇ | 4 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 18 | Will GordonW Gordon | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 18 | Dakotah KeaneD Keane◇ | 2 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 18 | Jackson RadleyJ Radley◇ | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 18 | Carleen HefelC Hefel◇ | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
GreyhoundsGoulburn10 of 10 races
Done
Box 2 takes the challenge on 13 points — 2 wins, 3 seconds, 1 third.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2 | 8 | 2 · 3 · 1 | 13 |
| 2 | 4 | 10 | 2 · 1 · 2 | 10 |
| 2 | 8 | 9 | 2 · 2 · 0 | 10 |
| 4 | 7 | 10 | 2 · 1 · 1 | 9 |
| 5 | 6 | 9 | 0 · 2 · 2 | 6 |
| 6 | 3 | 9 | 1 · 0 · 2 | 5 |
| 6 | 5 | 6 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 8 | 1 | 10 | 0 · 0 · 2 | 2 |
ThoroughbredBordertown9 of 9 races
Done
Todd Pannell takes the challenge on 9 points — 3 wins.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Todd PannellT Pannell | 5 | 3 · 0 · 0 | 9 |
| 2 | Harry GraceH Grace | 8 | 1 · 1 · 2 | 7 |
| 3 | Rochelle MilnesR Milnes | 6 | 0 · 2 · 1 | 5 |
| 3 | Campbell RawillerC Rawiller | 5 | 1 · 0 · 2 | 5 |
| 5 | Tala HutchinsonT Hutchinson | 5 | 0 · 2 · 0 | 4 |
| 6 | Jemma GutteJ Gutte | 5 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Jordyn WeatherleyJ Weatherley | 4 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 6 | Margaret CollettM Collett | 4 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Jacob OppermanJ Opperman | 2 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Wesley CaveW Cave | 2 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 11 | Connor MurtaghC Murtagh | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 11 | Caitlyn MunroC Munro | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 11 | Will PriceW Price | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 14 | Andrew SteadA Stead | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 14 | Kate WaltersK Walters | 2 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 14 | Polly BrewsterP Brewster | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 17 | Alysha WarrenA Warren | 5 | — | — |
| 17 | Ashvin GoindasamyA Goindasamy | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Dylan CabocheD Caboche | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Brooke KingB King | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Stacey MetcalfeS Metcalfe | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Brendon NewportB Newport | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Stephy WrightS Wright | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Tayla CameronT Cameron | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Alice LindsayA Lindsay | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Anna JordsjoA Jordsjo | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Ashlee StoneA Stone | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Chelsea JokicC Jokic | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Christine PulsC Puls | 1 | — | — |
ThoroughbredTuncurry8 of 8 races
Done
Shared on 6 points — Ashley Morgan and Aaron Bullock and Rory Hutchings.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ashley MorganA Morgan | 7 | 2 · 0 · 0 | 6 |
| 1 | Aaron BullockA Bullock | 5 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 1 | Rory HutchingsR Hutchings | 5 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 4 | Andrew GibbonsA Gibbons | 2 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 5 | Gabrielle JohnstonG Johnston | 2 | 0 · 2 · 0 | 4 |
| 6 | Mollie FitzgeraldM Fitzgerald | 5 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 6 | Adam FarragherA Farragher | 3 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Shannen LlewellynS Llewellyn | 2 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Jess TaylorJ Taylor | 1 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 10 | Grant BuckleyG Buckley | 5 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 10 | Olivia DaltonO Dalton | 3 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 12 | Ben LookerB Looker | 5 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Jenny DugganJ Duggan | 4 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Liberty SmythL Smyth | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Christian ReithC Reith | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Grace PalmerG Palmer | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 17 | Anna RoperA Roper | 4 | — | — |
| 17 | Kacie AdamsK Adams | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Madeline OwenM Owen | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Peter GrahamP Graham | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Zac WadickZ Wadick | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Daniel SmithD Smith | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Deon Le RouxD Le Roux | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Grady SpokesG Spokes | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Olivia ChambersO Chambers | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Paige Fergusson-SmithP Fergusson-Smith | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Archie McColmA McColm | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Braith NockB Nock | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Jack BakerJ Baker | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Cassey WilliamsC Williams | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | William StanleyW Stanley | 1 | — | — |
ThoroughbredGoulburn7 of 7 races
Done
Dylan Gibbons takes the challenge on 8 points — 2 wins, 1 second.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Dylan GibbonsD Gibbons | 4 | 2 · 1 · 0 | 8 |
| 2 | Keagan LathamK Latham | 5 | 2 · 0 · 1 | 7 |
| 3 | Brodie LoyB Loy | 4 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 3 | Dale ColeD Cole | 4 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 3 | Glenn CahillG Cahill | 3 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 3 | Adam HyeronimusA Hyeronimus | 2 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 3 | Andrew AdkinsA Adkins | 2 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 8 | Louise DayL Day | 4 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 8 | Shaun GuymerS Guymer | 2 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 8 | Amy McLucasA McLucas | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 8 | Tom SherryT Sherry | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 12 | Winona CostinW Costin | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Adrian LaytA Layt | 2 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Pierre BoudvillainP Boudvillain | 2 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 12 | Richard BensleyR Bensley | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 16 | Molly BourkeM Bourke | 6 | — | — |
| 16 | Alysha CollettA Collett | 4 | — | — |
| 16 | Deep ShankerD Shanker | 2 | — | — |
| 16 | Deanne PanyaD Panya | 2 | — | — |
| 16 | Andrew CalderA Calder | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Chad LeverC Lever | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Heavelon Van Der HovenH Van Der Hoven | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Coriah KeatingsC Keatings | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Ellen HennessyE Hennessy | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Jordan QuinceJ Quince | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Rebecca Bronett PragR Bronett Prag | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Robyn FreemanR Freeman | 1 | — | — |
| 16 | Sairyn FawkeS Fawke | 1 | — | — |
GreyhoundsTraralgon12 of 12 races
Done
Box 1 takes the challenge on 15 points — 3 wins, 2 seconds, 2 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 12 | 3 · 2 · 2 | 15 |
| 2 | 2 | 12 | 2 · 3 · 2 | 14 |
| 3 | 8 | 12 | 2 · 1 · 2 | 10 |
| 4 | 5 | 11 | 1 · 3 · 0 | 9 |
| 5 | 4 | 12 | 2 · 0 · 2 | 8 |
| 6 | 7 | 12 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 7 | 3 | 12 | 0 · 1 · 3 | 5 |
| 7 | 6 | 12 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
GreyhoundsMurray Bridge11 of 11 races
Done
Box 1 takes the challenge on 17 points — 3 wins, 3 seconds, 2 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 10 | 3 · 3 · 2 | 17 |
| 2 | 8 | 8 | 2 · 2 · 3 | 13 |
| 3 | 5 | 7 | 3 · 0 · 1 | 10 |
| 4 | 2 | 8 | 1 · 3 · 0 | 9 |
| 5 | 4 | 9 | 1 · 1 · 3 | 8 |
| 5 | 7 | 8 | 1 · 2 · 1 | 8 |
| 7 | 6 | 3 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 8 | 3 | 2 | — | — |
GreyhoundsQ1 Lakeside11 of 11 races
Done
Box 4 takes the challenge on 14 points — 3 wins, 2 seconds, 1 third.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 4 | 11 | 3 · 2 · 1 | 14 |
| 2 | 3 | 11 | 4 · 0 · 1 | 13 |
| 3 | 7 | 11 | 1 · 4 · 1 | 12 |
| 4 | 6 | 11 | 3 · 0 · 1 | 10 |
| 5 | 8 | 11 | 0 · 4 · 1 | 9 |
| 6 | 2 | 11 | 0 · 0 · 3 | 3 |
| 6 | 5 | 11 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 8 | 1 | 11 | 0 · 0 · 2 | 2 |
GreyhoundsThe Gardens12 of 12 races
Done
Box 4 takes the challenge on 12 points — 2 wins, 2 seconds, 2 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 4 | 12 | 2 · 2 · 2 | 12 |
| 2 | 1 | 12 | 2 · 2 · 1 | 11 |
| 2 | 3 | 12 | 3 · 1 · 0 | 11 |
| 2 | 8 | 12 | 0 · 4 · 3 | 11 |
| 5 | 2 | 12 | 1 · 1 · 3 | 8 |
| 5 | 6 | 12 | 2 · 1 · 0 | 8 |
| 7 | 5 | 9 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 8 | 7 | 12 | 1 · 0 · 2 | 5 |
ThoroughbredSunshine Coast8 of 8 races
Done
Shared on 6 points — Taylor Marshall and Michael Rodd.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Taylor MarshallT Marshall | 4 | 2 · 0 · 0 | 6 |
| 1 | Michael RoddM Rodd | 3 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 3 | Ben ThompsonB Thompson | 5 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 3 | Emily LangE Lang | 5 | 1 · 0 · 2 | 5 |
| 5 | Cejay GrahamC Graham | 4 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
| 6 | Tiffani BrookerT Brooker | 4 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 6 | Rob ThorburnR Thorburn | 1 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | Ross O'SullivanR O'Sullivan | 1 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 9 | Bella YoungberryB Youngberry | 6 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 9 | Jag Guthmann-ChesterJ Guthmann-Chester | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 9 | Tahlia FenlonT Fenlon | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 9 | Nozi TomizawaN Tomizawa | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 9 | Ryan HoustonR Houston | 1 | 0 · 1 · 0 | 2 |
| 14 | Jake BaylissJ Bayliss | 4 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 14 | Mark Du PlessisM Du Plessis | 4 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 14 | Emily PozmanE Pozman | 1 | 0 · 0 · 1 | 1 |
| 17 | Brandon LerenaB Lerena | 4 | — | — |
| 17 | Georgina CartwrightG Cartwright | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Steph TierneyS Tierney | 3 | — | — |
| 17 | Adin ThompsonA Thompson | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Boris ThorntonB Thornton | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Dan McGillivrayD McGillivray | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Montana PhilpotM Philpot | 2 | — | — |
| 17 | Adam SewellA Sewell | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Adam SpinksA Spinks | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Ashley ButlerA Butler | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Benjamin OsmondB Osmond | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Dylan TurnerD Turner | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Jai WilliamsJ Williams | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Matthew PowellM Powell | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Colleen KrahnenC Krahnen | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Courtney BellamyC Bellamy | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Gabrielle SemmensG Semmens | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Kayla JohnstonK Johnston | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Paul HamblinP Hamblin | 1 | — | — |
| 17 | Robbie DolanR Dolan | 1 | — | — |
GreyhoundsBendigo12 of 12 races
Done
Box 1 takes the challenge on 14 points — 2 wins, 3 seconds, 2 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 12 | 2 · 3 · 2 | 14 |
| 2 | 3 | 8 | 3 · 1 · 1 | 12 |
| 3 | 5 | 4 | 3 · 1 · 0 | 11 |
| 4 | 8 | 12 | 1 · 1 · 3 | 8 |
| 5 | 2 | 12 | 0 · 3 · 1 | 7 |
| 5 | 7 | 12 | 2 · 0 · 1 | 7 |
| 5 | 4 | 11 | 1 · 1 · 2 | 7 |
| 8 | 6 | 8 | 0 · 2 · 2 | 6 |
GreyhoundsGeelong12 of 12 races
Done
Box 1 takes the challenge on 16 points — 2 wins, 4 seconds, 2 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 12 | 2 · 4 · 2 | 16 |
| 2 | 5 | 11 | 4 · 0 · 0 | 12 |
| 3 | 8 | 12 | 2 · 2 · 1 | 11 |
| 4 | 6 | 11 | 2 · 1 · 3 | 10.5 |
| 5 | 2 | 11 | 2 · 1 · 0 | 8 |
| 6 | 4 | 12 | 0 · 3 · 2 | 7.5 |
| 7 | 3 | 12 | 0 · 1 · 5 | 7 |
| 8 | 7 | 12 | — | — |
GreyhoundsRichmond12 of 12 races
Done
Box 2 takes the challenge on 16 points — 4 wins, 4 thirds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2 | 11 | 4 · 0 · 4 | 16 |
| 2 | 1 | 12 | 3 · 2 · 1 | 14 |
| 2 | 5 | 10 | 3 · 2 · 1 | 14 |
| 4 | 8 | 11 | 1 · 3 · 0 | 9 |
| 5 | 4 | 12 | 0 · 2 · 2 | 6 |
| 6 | 3 | 7 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 7 | 7 | 11 | 0 · 1 · 2 | 4 |
| 7 | 6 | 7 | 0 · 1 · 2 | 4 |
GreyhoundsGrafton12 of 12 races
Done
Box 8 takes the challenge on 15 points — 3 wins, 3 seconds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 8 | 11 | 3 · 3 · 0 | 15 |
| 2 | 1 | 12 | 2 · 2 · 3 | 13 |
| 3 | 2 | 12 | 2 · 1 · 2 | 10 |
| 3 | 3 | 12 | 1 · 2 · 3 | 10 |
| 3 | 6 | 12 | 1 · 3 · 1 | 10 |
| 6 | 5 | 7 | 1 · 1 · 1 | 6 |
| 7 | 7 | 12 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
| 7 | 4 | 11 | 1 · 0 · 1 | 4 |
Thoroughbred · ZAFFairview8 of 8 races
Done
C Zackey takes the challenge on 16 points — 5 wins, 1 third.
| Rider | Rides | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | C ZackeyC Zackey | 8 | 5 · 0 · 1 | 16 |
| 2 | M YeniM Yeni | 6 | 1 · 0 · 2 | 5 |
| 2 | S NaidooS Naidoo◇ | 5 | 1 · 1 · 0 | 5 |
| 4 | C LittleC Little | 5 | 0 · 2 · 0 | 4 |
| 4 | W AgrellaW Agrella◇ | 4 | 0 · 2 · 0 | 4 |
| 6 | C MaujeanC Maujean | 8 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 6 | R FourieR Fourie | 8 | 1 · 0 · 0 | 3 |
| 6 | C MurrayC Murray | 4 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 6 | X NdlovuX Ndlovu◇ | 4 | 0 · 1 · 1 | 3 |
| 10 | M K KatjediM K Katjedi◇ | 6 | 0 · 0 · 2 | 2 |
| 11 | K StrydomK Strydom | 6 | — | — |
GreyhoundsMandurah12 of 12 races
Done
Box 1 takes the challenge on 18 points — 4 wins, 3 seconds.
| Box | Runs | 1 · 2 · 3 | Pts | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 12 | 4 · 3 · 0 | 18 |
| 2 | 8 | 11 | 3 · 1 · 3 | 14 |
| 3 | 4 | 12 | 2 · 2 · 0 | 10 |
| 4 | 2 | 12 | 0 · 3 · 2 | 8 |
| 4 | 6 | 9 | 1 · 1 · 3 | 8 |
| 6 | 5 | 11 | 2 · 0 · 2 | 7.5 |
| 7 | 3 | 8 | 0 · 2 · 1 | 5 |
| 8 | 7 | 10 | 0 · 0 · 2 | 1.5 |
Scoring:
3 win
2 second
1 third
· most points at meeting's end wins the challenge
Rides / Runs — engagements at the meeting · ◇ — scoring from outside the quoted challenge field